Giganews crosspost limit

[Jim]

Hello,
Giganews supplies my ISP newsgroup access and I would like to know if
Giganews has a crosspost limit? If so then what is the maximum number of
groups that I may crosspost to? Thanks.

[M_O]

wrong group
post message to giganews.general

Post by Jim
Hello,
Giganews supplies my ISP newsgroup access and I would like to know if
Giganews has a crosspost limit? If so then what is the maximum number of
groups that I may crosspost to? Thanks.
--
Jim

[Jim]

Post by M_O

Post by Jim
Hello,
Giganews supplies my ISP newsgroup access and I would like to know if
Giganews has a crosspost limit? If so then what is the maximum number
of groups that I may crosspost to? Thanks.

wrong group
post message to giganews.general

I would have but it's not available. :(

[Gregory Hall]

Post by Jim

Post by M_O

Post by Jim
Hello,
Giganews supplies my ISP newsgroup access and I would like to know if
Giganews has a crosspost limit? If so then what is the maximum number
of groups that I may crosspost to? Thanks.

wrong group
post message to giganews.general

I would have but it's not available. :(
--
Jim

The FAQ is available at the Giganews website:

http://www.giganews.com/legal/aup.html

"Crossposting
A few binary newsgroups, such as certain music groups, encourage posting to
more than one group at the same time, as long as the content is appropriate
to each newsgroup. The majority of binary groups and almost all text groups,
however, discourage any form of crossposting. Please consider that a thread
in a text group may begin as appropriate to two newsgroups, but followups
may soon become "off topic" in one of the groups."

As you can see, as is the case in most every news server in existence (other
than Altopia that is), the Giganews AUP is written intentionally vague and
contradictory. One would think one could clean such a simple thing as
allowable number of crossposts but NOOOOOOOO! Note the farce statement "as
long as the content is appropriate to each newsgroup." Ask yourself who
decides that? The abuse dept. of Giganews, of course. They hire idiots who
know nothing and will be the ones deciding what is appropriate and what is
not without having ever posted or read the groups in question until they
received a complaint from some wankstained netKKKop or netnanny. The lie
about "almost all text groups, however, discourage any form of crossposting"
is an outright lie.

So, to be safe, you must limit your crossposting to only two groups. Even
then you must anguish about how some clueless, nOOb, abuse clerk who earns
maybe 6 bucks an hour views appropriate.

Are you stupid enough to pay good money for that? Not me, man.

[Jim]

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jim

Post by M_O

Post by Jim
Hello,
Giganews supplies my ISP newsgroup access and I would like to know
if Giganews has a crosspost limit? If so then what is the maximum
number of groups that I may crosspost to? Thanks.

wrong group
post message to giganews.general

I would have but it's not available. :(

http://www.giganews.com/legal/aup.html
"Crossposting

<snip>

I read it.

Post by Gregory Hall
So, to be safe, you must limit your crossposting to only two groups.
Even then you must anguish about how some clueless, nOOb, abuse clerk
who earns maybe 6 bucks an hour views appropriate.
Are you stupid enough to pay good money for that? Not me, man.

My ISP pays.

Your points are well taken. IMO I don't see how it could be economically
feasible for them to monitor every crosspost made by their subscribers,
but I could be wrong. I was hoping to hear some first hand experiences
from people whose ISP uses Giganews. Do you speak from first hand
experience? Thanks.

[George G]

Post by Jim
Do you speak from first hand
experience?

Gregory Hall/Neal Warren is an Altopia shill. Everything he writes
is bollocks. Bill gave you good advice on posting to test groups;
try it and find out for yourself what the crosspost limit, if there
is one, is.

[Gregory Hall]

Post by George G

Post by Jim
Do you speak from first hand
experience?

Gregory Hall/Neal Warren is an Altopia shill. Everything he writes
is bollocks. Bill gave you good advice on posting to test groups;
try it and find out for yourself what the crosspost limit, if there
is one, is.

Duh! Get a clue. Jim's main concern isn't about the number of cross posts
physically allowed. The impression I got is he's more concerned about
getting into trouble if some Rube complains about him excessively cross
posting.

[Jim]

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by George G

Do you speak from first hand experience?

Gregory Hall/Neal Warren is an Altopia shill. Everything he writes
is bollocks. Bill gave you good advice on posting to test groups;
try it and find out for yourself what the crosspost limit, if there
is one, is.

Duh! Get a clue. Jim's main concern isn't about the number of cross
posts physically allowed.

Actually it is but I must not have made that clear in my OP so my bad.

Post by Gregory Hall
The impression I got is he's more concerned
about getting into trouble if some Rube complains about him
excessively cross posting.

I'm not worried about that. If someone whines and my ISP says something
then I'll deal with it. In my experience if my ISP were receptive to
complaints of any type I would have been booted off many long years ago.
But then I crosspost at irregular intervals and I *never* spam so my ISP
may not find my usenet activities a problem.

I posted my OP to four newsgroups and GG shows that I was successful in
all of them. I did dummy up a little with my OP because I listed:
alt.usenet.news-server-comparison twice. Lets see if I can fix that with
this post.

For now it looks like I can reliably CP to four NG's at a time. I will
conduct more experiments. Thanks to all who replied.

[Gary L. Burnore]

Post by Jim

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by George G

Do you speak from first hand experience?

Gregory Hall/Neal Warren is an Altopia shill. Everything he writes
is bollocks. Bill gave you good advice on posting to test groups;
try it and find out for yourself what the crosspost limit, if there
is one, is.

Duh! Get a clue. Jim's main concern isn't about the number of cross
posts physically allowed.

Actually it is but I must not have made that clear in my OP so my bad.

Actually, you did make it clear. Hall is just "like that" if you know
what I mean.

Post by Jim

Post by Gregory Hall
The impression I got is he's more concerned
about getting into trouble if some Rube complains about him
excessively cross posting.

I'm not worried about that. If someone whines and my ISP says something
then I'll deal with it. In my experience if my ISP were receptive to
complaints of any type I would have been booted off many long years ago.
But then I crosspost at irregular intervals and I *never* spam so my ISP
may not find my usenet activities a problem.

Sites using Cleanfeed in its default mode limit to 14. We limit to
10. A few limit less than that but not many. Crossposting is better
for the NSP than posting the same article to separate groups for the
obvious reasons.

Post by Jim
I posted my OP to four newsgroups and GG shows that I was successful in
alt.usenet.news-server-comparison twice. Lets see if I can fix that with
this post.

I'm fairly sure posting to the same group twice only means posting
there once.

Post by Jim
For now it looks like I can reliably CP to four NG's at a time. I will
conduct more experiments. Thanks to all who replied.

NP.
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[Gregory Hall]

"Gary L. Burnore" <***@databasix.com> wrote in message news:gi6nk0$j3c$***@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
<snip>

Post by Gary L. Burnore
Actually, you did make it clear. Hall is just "like that" if you know
what I mean.

<sniped to end>

Sorry, Gary, if I've told you once I've told you a hundred times, I'm not
"like that" (gay) so please take your fantasies and stalking behavior
elsewhere. You'll never have sex with me so get over it, please.

[Gary L. Burnore]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:09:32 -0500, "Gregory Hall"

Post by Jim
<snip>

Post by Gary L. Burnore
Actually, you did make it clear. Hall is just "like that" if you know
what I mean.

<sniped to end>
Sorry, Gary, if I've told you once I've told you a hundred times, I'm not
"like that" (gay)

"Like that" means RETARDED, retard. Leave it to you to think of gay
though. Typical you.
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[Robb]

Post by Jim
<snip>

Post by Gary L. Burnore
Actually, you did make it clear. Hall is just "like that" if you know
what I mean.

<sniped to end>
Sorry, Gary, if I've told you once I've told you a hundred times, I'm not
"like that" (gay)

Then why did you put parens around GAY? Are you afraid of a word?
Rather queer, IFKWIM.

[Gregory Hall]

Post by Robb

Post by Jim
<snip>

Post by Gary L. Burnore
Actually, you did make it clear. Hall is just "like that" if you know
what I mean.

<sniped to end>
Sorry, Gary, if I've told you once I've told you a hundred times, I'm not
"like that" (gay)

Then why did you put parens around GAY? Are you afraid of a word?
Rather queer, IFKWIM.
--
Robb | Shared Secrets Usenet

You don't know Gary as well as I know him. He used to be quite the ladies
man but then something happened to turn him off to women so he became a
closet queen but recently he's come out of the closet and has been hitting
on me since that time. He booted me off databasix because I refused his
advances. Then I retaliated against him and humiliated the hell out of him.
I guess he gets turned on by humiliating. Probably hires dominatrix types
for his pleasure now. But, I've got to give the guy credit, he's very
persistent. And he certainly has good tastes in men. But, he can't seem to
figure some of us are straight.

Oh well . . .

--
Gregory Hall

[Uni]

Post by Robb

Post by Jim
<snip>

Post by Gary L. Burnore
Actually, you did make it clear. Hall is just "like that" if you know
what I mean.

<sniped to end>
Sorry, Gary, if I've told you once I've told you a hundred times, I'm not
"like that" (gay)

Then why did you put parens around GAY? Are you afraid of a word?

Gay people rock! All the others are abnormal!

:-)

Uni

Post by Robb
Rather queer, IFKWIM.

[Uni]

Post by Jim
<snip>

Post by Gary L. Burnore
Actually, you did make it clear. Hall is just "like that" if you know
what I mean.

<sniped to end>
Sorry, Gary, if I've told you once I've told you a hundred times, I'm not
"like that" (gay) so please take your fantasies and stalking behavior
elsewhere. You'll never have sex with me so get over it, please.

That must have upset Gary.

:-)

Uni

[Gregory Hall]

Post by Jim

Post by Gregory Hall

Post by Jim

Post by M_O

Post by Jim
Hello,
Giganews supplies my ISP newsgroup access and I would like to know
if Giganews has a crosspost limit? If so then what is the maximum
number of groups that I may crosspost to? Thanks.

wrong group
post message to giganews.general

I would have but it's not available. :(

http://www.giganews.com/legal/aup.html
"Crossposting

<snip>
I read it.

Post by Gregory Hall
So, to be safe, you must limit your crossposting to only two groups.
Even then you must anguish about how some clueless, nOOb, abuse clerk
who earns maybe 6 bucks an hour views appropriate.
Are you stupid enough to pay good money for that? Not me, man.

My ISP pays.
Your points are well taken. IMO I don't see how it could be economically
feasible for them to monitor every crosspost made by their subscribers,
but I could be wrong. I was hoping to hear some first hand experiences
from people whose ISP uses Giganews. Do you speak from first hand
experience? Thanks.
--
Jim

I used to have an ISP years ago that provide Giganews as part of the
package. Giga won't be monitoring you for excessive cross-posting. They will
only become aware of it if (when, believe me it will be when) somebody
complains about it. Usenet is rife with crybaby netKKKops and netnannies
whose little feelings are chronically hurt so, sooner or later, you'll
probably piss somebody off either intentionally or unintentionally. They
will then write abuse complaints about you to Giga because that's what their
life consists of. Then you may get a warning, most likely from your ISP,
about it if you're lucky and they may block you from using Giga if you
aren't or continue to engage in the so-called abuse or if they continue to
receive complaints.

In other words, vaguely worded AUP/TOS work to the advantage of the
netKKKops and net nannies and they know it. In other words, the AUP/TOS can
and will be used against you by any and all netKKKops facilitated by lazy,
inept or clueless admin or abuse departments. So you take your chances and
if you get booted you can always get another news server - preferably one
like Altopia that has a clear, concise, user-friendly AUP/TOS policy along
with an extremely knowledgeable and ethical admin who doesn't treat his
customers like dirt.

[Jim]

Post by Jim
Hello,
Giganews supplies my ISP newsgroup access and I would like to know if
Giganews has a crosspost limit? If so then what is the maximum number
of groups that I may crosspost to? Thanks.

If every newsgroup has the same messages, why
should there be more than one newsgroup?

I'll leave that to the audience to decide.

Is what you have to say so important that it
must be in every newsgroup?

You lost me there. I seriously doubt I have the power to simultaneously
crosspost to every newsgroup on usenet.

My guess is that Giganews has several test
newsgroups.

I'll look into that.

You can answer your own question
by crossposting to them until you get an error
message.

I my experience Giganews does not send an error message of the kind you
imply. YMMV. I am following up to the groups in my OP so try not to get
your panties in a knot.

[Jim]

Post by Jim
Hello,
Giganews supplies my ISP newsgroup access and I would like to know if
Giganews has a crosspost limit? If so then what is the maximum number of
groups that I may crosspost to? Thanks.

After some experimenting I find that six is the maximum number of
newsgroups that I can reliably crosspost to.

[Gregory Hall]

"Jim" <***@invalid.invlid> wrote in message news:***@216.168.3.44...
<snipped here>

Post by Jim
After some experimenting I find that six is the maximum number of
newsgroups that I can reliably crosspost to.
--
Jim

Real news servers allow 10-14.

[Andy]

Why would any one want to cross post to that many groups at once?

Post by Gregory Hall
<snipped here>

Post by Jim
After some experimenting I find that six is the maximum number of
newsgroups that I can reliably crosspost to.
--
Jim

Real news servers allow 10-14.
--
Gregory Hall

[Robert Miles]

Spammers and trolls sometimes do, to reach more people with
fewer posts. However, I seldom if ever see anything crossposted
to more than 5 newsgroups reach the newsgroups servers I use.

Post by Andy
Why would any one want to cross post to that many groups at once?

Post by Gregory Hall
<snipped here>

Post by Jim
After some experimenting I find that six is the maximum number of
newsgroups that I can reliably crosspost to.
--
Jim

Real news servers allow 10-14.
--
Gregory Hall

[Andy]

All news servers and services are real what rules and limits how ever vary
:)

Post by Gregory Hall
<snipped here>

Post by Jim
After some experimenting I find that six is the maximum number of
newsgroups that I can reliably crosspost to.
--
Jim

Real news servers allow 10-14.
--
Gregory Hall